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TNap's avatar

They are absolutely grooming Vance and he will be INFINITELY more dangerous for our country!

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Cindy La Ferle's avatar

I believe he's more evil and dangerous than Trump. I think the GOP has become an agent of the Devil, and I'm only half kidding.

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Teach84's avatar
4dEdited

I agree that the GOP has become the agent of the devil, and I am not kidding at all. God help us all.

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Doug Hiller's avatar

Take it to the streets. Consider a sign for the next protest:

“KEEP MAGA AWAY FROM OUR POLLING MACHINES !!”

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Lynda Phoenix's avatar

I hate to beat a dead horse but a continual theme of my remarks has been ... watch out for Vance!!! He's a snake! (Again my apologies to snakes). If he dislikes immigrants, then we should cede to the soventry of Native Americans. His America first, like Trump, boils down to Vance & billionaire backers first. I think the alligators are salavating around Trump and his days are numbered. It's not enough to take down Trump when he's obviously been the senile, Emperor with no clothes, pawn of the rich and mascaraed. The whole regime needs to go, as well as those corrupt, maga judges in the Supreme Court. This is an attempted billioner take over, not just the musings of some orange, sick-in-the-head old man. So everyone in Trump's regime is suspect, most of all his VP (I don't recommend chopping off their heads like in the French Revolution, but Alligator Alcatraz is still open).

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Angie's avatar

They are definitely grooming Vance. Fortunately, he’s a dull, unintelligent, uninspiring little man with a brown wife and brown children. Trump isn’t intelligent either, but he’s a salesman and he’s cunning. He’s a bullshit artist. He and his family are also vindictive as hell and I can’t imagine them just letting Vance steal their grift machine willingly. If they move to replace Trump, … get ready for the fireworks.

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Doug Hiller's avatar

There may be fireworks, but they will come suddenly and won’t last long. Since the inauguration, trump is the lightning rod at whom the bevy of evil actions are garnering him gobs of growing contempt…, but he is getting much “accomplished” for the tech bro oligarchy. When the masters behind the curtains decide to flip the switch, trump’s removal will be quick, Vance would slide into the Oval Office with most of the hated autocratic moves completed, but not by him ! Dull, unintelligent, uninspiring, but a willing figurehead with a relatively clear record without all the trump baggage. He could even, with just a little guidance, be made to look brilliant just by calming the tariff mess and declaring peace with Canada.

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Angie's avatar

It’ll take a hell of a lot more than lifting some tariffs to make JD Bowman look brilliant. This entire regime of fascists, both in front of the camera and behind the scenes, are not omnipotent, no matter how many times they say it. Their 4th Reich doesn’t survive without the cult leader. If they could have destroyed America without a trashy, racist salesman, they would have.

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K Rhinehart's avatar

"more polished version of cruelty" This is the second time in a few days that the word cruel has stood out for me. In the article I read, the writer coined the phrase Cruelty Cult. MAGA = Cruelty Cult. With their Alligator Concentration Camp, non action for disaster victims, cutting off aid in so many areas and their name calling...

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Kathy H's avatar

"Death cult" has stuck for me because I see what is being done as nihilism. I don't know how many are really betting on "the rapture" or being able to somehow take it with them in a kingdom of heaven or something, but continued extraction is clearly not sustainable, there's really twisted ideas in this.

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KaijaJo's avatar

Funny I told my spouse last night that i thought Epstein would be the excuse to move to Vance. Thinking Vance can come in .. be the hero release the files put a nail in trumps coffin and become the messiah for MAGA. He isn’t well liked he would need a big strategic lift to make him their guy. Releasing the files could be that lift

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Holli's avatar

But what if all their GOP mega donors are on the list? Doesn’t matter whose in charge, they won’t do it.

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Rosie the Resister's avatar

They’ll definitely control any release. The point isn’t whether or not they release it, it’s if they’ll use it as an opportunity to use Vance as the hero and turn their backs on Trump. May or may not work but it sure looks like their plan.

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Linda Unger's avatar

I have said this all along. The Project 2025 bunch needed Trump to gain power - he's the one with the following and all of them are deeply unlikeable, especially Vance. But Vance is the best of all toadies, he is easier to manipulate than Trump and will do anything they say. So now that they're established they will themselves impeach or 25th Trump and set up Vance for the next ten years.

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Bananies's avatar

I agree about Vance. There have probably been clandestine meetings hidden from Trump about what to do if Trump implodes. Nothing would surprise me at this point…maybe another impeachment with enough Republicans jumping ship he actually gets convicted, maybe the 25th amendment since there’s been enough speculation floating around on the web about his mental fitness to stay in office, I could go even darker but not right now…like I said nothing would surprise me. What concerns me about Vance and this is me going deep psychological for which I have no credible credentials…he has the eyes of a potential religious fanatic. His eyes remind me of the first Supreme Leader in Iran, not the one in there now, but the one who stepped in after the Shah was overthrown. Bin Laden had that look in his eyes, so did Manson. So I guess I’m skirting the lines of going down a conspiracy theory black hole. I don’t think I really will go down that hole but being up here on the edges of the hole with all the possibilities at work, gotta say…it’s both entertaining and completely terrifying.

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Jenn Knoxville's avatar

YEP!

JD is the PayPal Mafia's purchase.

His alignments and agendas are truly horrible

The public has seen some of elon's dirty work by now, but it's well past time the voting public is educated on Thiel - another South African with a white supremecist family tree

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Michelle Nee's avatar

Yes! THE WHOLE REGIME NEEDS TO GO!!!!!

Vance is just a hillbilly with caveman mentality. With him we will go back to the stone ages.

Bring back Democracy!!! 🇺🇸

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Kathy H's avatar

He so is...him trying to sound educated as he's attacking & gaslighting people sets my teeth on edge as much as the overt arrogance of Felon47. Vance is in no way as slick & polished as he is trying to pull off. I don't think anyone buys his b.s. humble origin story- he may have suffered trauma, but he is an abuser & his weird sycophancy is disturbing as well.

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Michelle Nee's avatar

ALL of them are DISCUSTING! We won’t be any better off with Vance. The whole regime needs to go back to hell where they came from and belong.

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Kathy H's avatar

So right. Maybe now so many have shown themselves we can round their demonic asses up & send them in a flaming handbasket, back where they belong!

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StillJootz's avatar

Project 2025 only needed Trump (and his idiot base to help him) to get their hands on the White House and consolidate power, and create some needed distractions from what they're doing behind the scenes. Now that they have control, and have already methodically placed their minions in key positions all over the government and SCOTUS, and rigged all future elections to keep themselves in power indefinitely, they no longer need Trump.

That was the deal....they kept him out of prison in exchange for consolidating their power and position. And they only agreed to help him win and keep him out of prison IF he accepted their unknown, hand-picked, well-paid, obedient minion Vance as his running mate (according to reports, Trump had to be convinced to accept him), so they could get rid of Trump anytime if he somehow became too much of a "problem" for them. I don't think he realized that at the time, but was desperate to stay out of prison, so he agreed. He's such an idiot and easy mark, they knew he'd screw up 'bigly' at some point, but that was OK, because with Vance in position they had it covered.

With the Epstein files now going out of control, he has proven that he is that predicted "problem". Too many of the Project 2025/right wing oligarchy are implicated in this mess for them to take a chance of him screwing this up. So expect Trump to somehow, some way, be taken 'out of office' in the next few weeks.....perhaps a 'sudden medical emergency'?? another "assassination attempt"?? a sudden midnight disappearance into the unknown (courtesy of one of his dictator friends)?? .....so Vance can take the reins without an argument from citizens, cuz that's in the Constitution, right? I suspect that's why he's freaking out now. He knows he got himself stuck between a rock and a hard place, and he knows what's coming, and he's desperate to save himself.

All Project 2025 needs at this point is something big to happen to "force" Trump OR Vance to declare martial law, and this whole coup is over.....signed, sealed, and delivered. Something conveniently "unexpected" happening to Trump could be the trigger they've been waiting for.

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Rebecca Brown's avatar

I thought he might be in by now actually. He lacks the shiny tackiness that appeals to maga, but is more cunning than trump. Hopefully he fails miserably if he gets in.

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Teach84's avatar

“The plan, as Vice President J.D. Vance explained in a 2021 interview, is to destroy the current government, business, educational, cultural, and scientific pillars of the United States in order to replace them with a new system, although there is tension between the Project 2025 wing of MAGA and the technocrats' wing over whether that new system will be a theocracy or a technocracy. In either case, it will be an authoritarian government in which power and money concentrate in a very few hands.”

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Teach84's avatar

He holds the same cruel, vicious, fascist beliefs as the current felon in the White House, but he is hundreds of times more dangerous. God help us all once Vance takes over.

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Diana Sanders's avatar

Scary shit! I’m old enough to remember how the GOP got rid of Agnew before getting Nixon to resign. But I believe you are correct in this instance Vance is being groomed but he is a 100 times more dangerous than Trump because he really believes in White Supremacy where Frump is in it for the money and attention. Vance & Steven Miller would be the end of this country!

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enigmatic proprietary's avatar

Oh Vance.. he is an extreme puppet... last person to become president... but an obvious plan....

When I think of him cheering the women on to make more babies i can't help wonder ..who for? Pedophiles? Soldiers?

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