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Rosie the Resister's avatar

The timing is too perfect. They've stalled and stalled with promises to make all their delusional conspiracy theories come true...until they got everything they need to implement Project 2025. This wasn't an oops. It was the next step in the plan.

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Pollyanna Must Die's avatar

Everyone needs to be sharing why JD Vance is a thousand times more dangerous than Trump. Peter Thiel funded his rapid rise in politics. He is intelligent. He is young. He is anti-democratic, accelerationist, Curtis Yarvin thinks he's "perfect," it's truly terrifying. If put in the presidency, he would execute on Project 2025 with rapid efficiency. This is why when people in comment threads start crying for impeachment, I point out the danger that Vance represents and that they should cool their jets. We need a strategy. This is very depressing.

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arne link's avatar

He has zero charisma. He cannot hold a cult together. Maybe that won't matter when the new cabal holds all the cards. IDK>

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E Shelton's avatar

“Perfect”? Please. He’s only “lightening in a bottle” in his tech-masters’ delusions.

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Frank Moore's avatar

I’m really skeptical that they can successfully substitute JD Vance for Chump. The ClowntiChrist is a special kind of Turd Reich führer and not replicable. JD is a smarmy poseur empty suit with no charisma nor charm and no conviction who will be as reviled as Ted Cruz is in short order. It won’t work. The MAGAts will split and many aren’t interested in Christian Nationalism and have lots of guns. 🤠 Yee-haw.

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Pollyanna Must Die's avatar

You’ll get no argument from me on that, but he’s got powerful people who are hoping to work through him and we need to be aware of that.

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E Shelton's avatar

True. For a moment I forgot GOP SCOTUS decreed money is speech, courtesy of similar bankrollers. Thanks for reminder!

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E Shelton's avatar

Forgot to say, love your handle!

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Andre Shumpert's avatar

True.

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Erica Beecroft's avatar

J D Vance was always the end-game. Trump was just the “frontman” to get the vote. JD is in thick with Russell Vought and will take over. Unfortunately, he will be slicker and more slippery than the current fool, who seems to be completely unaware of the conspiracy. Project 2025 has been running the US since he won office. This will not end well.

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Rachel C's avatar

Vance is nasty. He is not attractive in any way. You can see the hate and evil oozing from him. He needs an exorcism. 👹

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E Shelton's avatar

Vance’s head does rotate. From “Trump is Hitler” to “Thank you Mr. President” in… how much tech money was it? He’s Peter Thiel’s creation.

And he spews.

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E Shelton's avatar

Vance has zero charisma. He’s Project 2025’s dream - on paper.

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Andre Shumpert's avatar

Unfortunately true.

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Esme's avatar

Vance lacks the essential patriarchal magnetism and “specialness.” He’s not Big Daddy enough for that crowd. I’m not convinced he can keep them all glued together.

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Erica Beecroft's avatar

Let’s hope not Esme. Maybe the party will fall apart and re-assemble with a sensible group of people and these far right nazi’s will slither back under the rocks they emerged from, never to be seen again.

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V Baldwin's avatar

Pammy has been in Epstein web from the beginning. Florida AG in first Epstein trial.

She knows.

she’s a major player in this farce.

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R.R. Walker's avatar

So if we do get a next election we should collectively demand paper ballots and hand counts. Even if it takes two weeks to count them.

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Rain Robinson's avatar

Yep, you are right. Felonpotus has always been the figurehead to keep the base riled, while the puppeteers pulled the Project 2025 agenda into current federal policy. The election in 2026 will be the last step before full blown authoritarian fascism in the US - if they can successfully keep a majority in Congress by hook or by crook then. Vance is Thiel's puppet, for Thiel's version of technocrat fiefdoms with overlord rulers. That doesn't necessarily collide with Project 2025. Vance is as rabid a maga as felonpotus at the moment. So keeping the 2026 election fair is absolutely key.

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Me's avatar

Rosie, you are right on target. This is not a gaffe. It was planned. That said it is still an opportunity to draw some of the disenchanted away from the spell of MAGA. BTW, Rosie, how the hell did you know about my uncle, my coworker and my mom?

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Rosie the Resister's avatar

lol, I guess we all have those!

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Karen McNeely's avatar

Makes sense. But we still have JD Vance, the new puppet in charge. Trump is ignorant delusional old man who has handlers. Vance is an educated, insure and dumb enough to blurt out insults to world leaders He knows he has been bought and paid for by an authoritarian group who are hell bent on the total demise of freedom and justice. His usefulness will evaporate and he feels it every day but he is as hemmed in as those in Alligator Alcatraz. And lying in wait is holier than thou Mike Johnson. Keep resisting. It’s not dark yet but it’s close!!!

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KellyMC's avatar

JD Vance is severely unpopular however . That’s a major glitch in the plan no ?

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Teach84's avatar

I’m really hoping it is because he has very scary plans for our country. Taken from a previous interview with Vance:

“The plan, as Vice President J.D. Vance explained in a 2021 interview, is to destroy the current government, business, educational, cultural, and scientific pillars of the United States in order to replace them with a new system, although there is tension between the Project 2025 wing of MAGA and the technocrats' wing over whether that new system will be a theocracy or a technocracy. In either case, it will be an authoritarian government in which power and money concentrate in a very few hands.”

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Karen McNeely's avatar

The playbook is an update from Mussolini. Christian Nationalism IS NOT CHRISTIAN. No way loving your neighbor as yourself. The point of removing DEI and screaming about WOKE people is to build hatred and separation, to weaken the strengthen and UNITY of the USA. TO BE CLEAR!!!! MOST WHITE MEN ARE NOT RACIST. CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM IS AN IDEOLOGY OF RACISM BY A CULT WHO BELIEVES THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE SUPERIOR, THAT WHITE MEN ARE THE SUPREME AUTHORITY. THAT WOMEN ARE SECOND CLASS HUMANS, SUBSERVIENT TO WHITE MEN AT ALL TIMES THAT MEANS NO NEED FOR EDUCATION, NO NEED FOR CAREERS OR FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE, NO NEED FOR BODILY AUTONOMY (No conception or abortion, no matter the circumstances). IF THE WIFE DIES, HE IS FREE TO REPLACE HER, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, HE IS SUPERIOR, RIGHT? THIS CULT IS ALL ABOUT REPOPULATING AT LEAST THE US WITH WHITE PEOPLE. AND AT THE SAME TIME FALSELY PREACHING THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING JESUS CHRIST. THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING HIM, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS OR GOD AT ALL. JESUS WAS A JEW UNTIL HE DIED!!! THERE WERE NO CHRISTIAN UNTIL HE WAS CRUCIFIED FOR OUR SINS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD. HE WAS BORN AND DIED A MIDDLE EASTERN MAN. LOOK AT A MAP OF WHERE JERUSALEM IS!!!!! JESUS’ SKIN WAS LIKE JEWS TODAY AN OLIVE BROWNISH MAN. LOOK AT MODERN ISRAELI MEN TODAY. WAKE UP. CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM IS TO TRICK REAL FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS SO THEY HAVE NO WAY TO RESIST BEING UNDER AUTHORITARIAN DICTATORS THAT RULE BY TERRORIZING THE PEOPLE! ICE ARE GRABBING PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT CRIMINALS, TERRORIZING THEM TO SCARE US CITIZENS TO BE QUIET AND COMPLICIT TO SCARED TO SPEAK OUT!! IF WE GIVE IN TO FEAR WE HAVE NOT HOPE OR DEFENSE. THE PEOPLE IN THE “DETENTION CENTERS” (CONCENTRATION CAMPS) ARE BEING ABUSED AND TORTURED TO SCARE US CITIZENS. EVERYONE ON US SOIL BY THE CONSTITUTION HAS THE RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS, THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS IGNORING THE LAWS BY GRABBING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS, EVEN THOSE PICKING UP THEIR KIDS FROM SCHOOL AND THAT HAVE BROKEN NO LAWS AT ALL. IT MUST STOP NOW. WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN. REMEMBER YOUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD ( not trump) WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!! WE WILL OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD IF WE DTAND STRONG AND BRAVE LIKE OUR FOREFATHERS ACCOMPLISHED!

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Sunny King's avatar

Do you have a link to this interview by chance?

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Teach84's avatar

I’m sorry, but I do not. I looked back through my photo library to see where I found it, and I believe it was from the April 3, 2025, edition of Heather Cox Richardson’s daily letter. But I did not copy the link to her source.

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KellyMC's avatar

Somehow we have to put a stop to it . I don’t know how . But we have to stay hyper focused, united and vigilant. Power in numbers right ?

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Rebecca Lovewell's avatar

We have the best chance of stopping it by undermining the financial backers of the regime. This includes the campaign donors to all Republicans. If we hit them where it hurts (their bottom line), the pillars of support will collapse.

We can do this through targeted boycotts and a general strike. First step is to attend the July 16th Indivisible 1 million rising mobilization meeting online.

Second step is to go to the link below and sign your pledge card. There is an option to send it in by mail if you're concerned about digital security. Just go to the strike card page in the main menu and there's a downloadable card you can print out and mail in.

Just an FYI, I had an exchange with the organizer of the strike, and she said people who don't work can absolutely sign the card. The idea is that, during the strike, we don't spend any money on anything other than rent/mortgage payment and utilities.

Research has proven that no authoritarian regime since 1900 has been able to withstand actions like this if 3.5% of the population participates. I'll post a link to a short talk that explains that in my next comment. It's very informative and engaging.

Here's the link to where you can sign up.

https://generalstrikeus.com/

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E Shelton's avatar

Thank you for the clarification that retired, non-working can participate! No spending except essentials that can’t be delayed.

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Rebecca Lovewell's avatar

Absolutely! I'm in the category because I don't work for an employer, so I wasn't sure if I could sign the card without skewing their numbers. I was so happy to find out that I could. And that signing one was most welcome. :)

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Rebecca Lovewell's avatar

Here's the link to the short talk explaining why actions like boycotts and strikes are the most effective ways to get rid of this authoritarian machine:

https://youtu.be/YJSehRlU34w?si=TJGMke3HKdPl_tJG

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Karen McNeely's avatar

We don’t have a chance in hell if we are not strongly united. I know many good hearted trusting people are rudely awakening to the facts! We do great harm by screaming obscenities at these same people. Anytime you curse anybody they get defensive, shutdown and self righteous. Even the most racist, immigrant hating maga supporters on their best day could dream up ICE agents in tactical gear with masks and no ID disappearing human beings from Home Depot or tear-gassing immigrants running from produce fields. Or any US citizen deported without due process to a gulag in a foreign country. Concentration camps in the Florida everglades!! We need them to wake up AND stand up in UNITY WITH US to reclaim the honor, the integrity respect of the world. NO MATTER HOW CORRECT OUR ANGER MAY BE, FAILURE TO CONTROL IT AND DIRECT IT IS A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARD LOSING UNITY, TIME AND STRENGTH THAT WE CANT AFFORD TO CHANCE. WE ARE IN A VERY PRECARIOUS TIME IN WORLD HISTORY. WE ARE TRULY AN EXPERIMENT. NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS PROMOTED FREEDOM TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE. WE AS A COUNTRY AS ABOUT AS INDEPENDENT AS A HOG ON ICE OR IN MORE POLITE TERMS YOU CANNOT HERD CATS. WE ATE NOT HOGS OR CATS AND WE AS HELL CANT AFGORD TO BEHAVE LIKE THEM. WE ALL HANG TOGETHER FOR A STRONG USA IN THE LIGHT OF DAY OR WE HANG SEPARATELY, DISAPPEARED IN THE DARK OF NIGHT. PEACE AND GOOD WILL IS NOT JUST A CHRISTMAS GREETING

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JMull's avatar

No one else has thought of this that I can see. It’s. Very interesting to see if this ends up with Bondi gone and new fascists in line.

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Rosie the Resister's avatar

I almost feel like one of those energy workers with that one - I swear I’m just following logic here, but I don’t swear by anything when it comes to this swarm of cartoon villains.

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Maya J's avatar

It’s a fascinating theory. I agree trump is a placeholder, the proverbial useful idiot before they install JD Vance. Will be watching to see how things play out. Those of us who want the regime gone should not be celebrating yet.

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Bren M's avatar

This has been planned since Vance was presented to Trump as Vice President as the cost of winning the election. Trump’s days were numbered in his usefulness. The implementation of Project 2025 is far enough along that they probably think they don’t need him. But without the base, which Vance doesn’t command, they will no longer have a unified Republican Party. Vance will be much easier to impeach than Trump, and Mike the Johnson will be easier yet. It could be a four president year if we are lucky.

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Jere Stone's avatar

It's an interesting plot. And there is enough sense in it to make it look like the real thing. What your right about is the fact that it isn't about Trump. It's about Project 2025, which seems to be pretty much on schedule. Trump has been a good smoke screen so far, and he's not finished yet. Passing the Big Beautiful Budget Bill was not what was behind the curtain. That's merely the means to the end. If you want to know the end, read Project 2025. Do it in small bites. It's a big meal. Once you've finished it, you won't want dessert.

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Berble's avatar

I have been saying this since Trump was elected. The reason authoritarianism has gone even more quickly is Trump's fragile ego keeps F ing up plans. They absolutely needed a egotistical charmer to get the hate filled base frothing.

And yes if everyone does their part. Bondi and Noem will tossed out on their behinds. Then JD, who we all know is as maluable as Trump's jowls, will step in and be the voice for his financial backers.

And, just a thought, in order to have earth scorching AI facilities one would need a lot of wide open spaces to build them. What better place than the miles and miles of bankrupted farmland. That JD has been buying up. Just a thought.

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Enchanted Forest Art Press's avatar

Well shit. Now I'm scared.

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KellyMC's avatar

I was hopeful for the past 24 hrs . This definitely took the wind out of my sails but I don’t want to ride high on false hopes either .

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Leigh Ann Virgil's avatar

Yeah, I’ve been saying from the very beginning in January. What are they gonna do with Trump? The crystal nationals can’t have Trump as their leader, too compromised. How are they gonna dump him? This all makes sense to me.

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Andy's avatar

If the MSM covers it it’s part of a plan. There is indeed a Cabal but it’s neither Democrat nor Republican.

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Gerry Andres 🇨🇦's avatar

Always look a little deeper. Especially with the multi-layered political power centres. Nothing is what it initially seems. And even then there’s more to the story. Thanks for this. I had a feeling that there is more going on than what we’ve “seen.”

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Russell Pittman's avatar

Much of the notion of dissent among Trumplican ranks because Trump's DOJ is not releasing the Epstein files is a false flag operation. Trumplicans couldn't care less that Trump is a piece of shit. They know he is. How could they not? Trump did not campaign on releasing the Epstein files. In an interview Trump was asked if he would release the JFK files and the RFK files to which he said "yes" and "yes" and he was on a "yes" role when asked about the Epstein files but then he back peddled. Why is this being spun inaccurately. Of course, Trump is prominently named in the Epstein files. They probably also name people in Congress and other key government positions, and keeping this information close to Trump's scummy vest gives him leverage. The left needs to stop allowing themselves to be sucked into stuff that keeps them from taking control of the narrative, which should be about how Democrats will fix what both sides fucked up so badly that Trump could have ascended to our Nation's highest office.

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